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[Arcade PC] GITADORA Matixx (Konami)


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1 hour ago, sigoat said:

When I launch Gitadora Exchain my desktop audio cuts off till I close the game and the screen only appears black for me. (additionally I get audio rendering problems if I launch anything)
I checked both output and input they are both using 4800hz and allowing exclusive control/modes.
Not sure what to do at this point 😞

YOUR SOUND MUST BE 44100 CD QUALITY & Did you install ASIO4ALL 

 

Programs you might need ! 👇 ARE ON FRONT PAGE 

 

 

 

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On 2/2/2023 at 7:19 AM, bobthebuilder69 said:

So guys, I have every single commercially available XG GuitarFreaks controller.

 

Constraints:

All guitars will be tested on either GITADORA Konasute (EAC, cloud, etc), the official home version of the game, or DTX Mania, the most popular emulator for the game. 

Yes, I have access to a cab, but for the sake of home play only, I will be talking about home controllers only, though I will be comparing against cab conditions.

It should be noted that I am bronze-grade and therefore cannot speak for any quirks or features that matter to gameplay above my current skill grade. 

 

Option 1: Cab guitar

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With every review, you need a referee to stick to the rules. Of course, we are going to compare controllers to the guitars that are on the machine. 

Purchase

It was very hard to get my hands on these. These are not commercially available and you can only hope that these show up on the secondhand market. By secondhand market, I mean these only show up on Yahoo Auctions Japan, also known as YAJ or yahouku. Cab guitar listings will look something like this. This means a few things. 

1. Because these are only available on yahouku, this means they are in Japan. You will pay a gargantuan amount for shipping. For my guitars, I paid $120 each to ship from Japan to the US East Coast. 

2. Being only available on yahouku means that these do not appear regularly. Only a dozen show up every year, and they are usually listed in big batches all at once. You gotta wait if you want to buy one.

3. Being only available on yahouku also means you have buy through a proxy like Buyee or Zenmarket and deal with their associated fees.

4. The first time I saw a cab guitar go up for auction, I actually lost because I was bidding against an arcade getting replacement parts. There may be competition, so be aware. 

5. These are cab guitars, so they require a decent amount of work to be able to play on, at the very least, knowledge of soldering. Even then, they may come with problems. In my P2 guitar, one of the cables to the buttons was actually faulty. If something is broken… good luck getting replacement parts, lmao

Playing experience

I mean, it’s a guitar straight from a cab. I personally love it. The only real problems I had were that the springs in the strum were a bit too light for my taste. This is probably because the guitar has seen over a decade of use.

Option 2: Konami Official Guitar

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Of course, I am obligated to bring up the official controller from Konami. This is what Konami thinks you should be using at home. 

Purchase

Here’s the thing: you can only buy these from Japan. The situation is similar to the cab guitars, except you CAN get them from Konami. Buying these via Tenso with your e-amuse account will actually unlock several exclusive songs both in arcade and in Konasute. It’s quite neat. Just one catch: it’s 38k yen. That is pretty expensive, especially when you consider shipping on top of that. But, you don’t have to pay that much. 

I bought mine off of yahouku for 21.5k yen. These show up on yahouku very often, and at very good prices. Shipping is considerably less than a cab guitar because they are not heavy at all. I paid about 11.5k yen, or 91 USD for shipping. However, mine didn’t come with a strap and I ended up using a GITALLER strap on this instead.

 

Playing experience

Pros

It’s great! I really like the fret switches, they feel almost exactly like a real cab guitar. The strum bar is actually ever so slightly smaller than a cab guitar strum. I slipped off of the bar mid-strum a few times. I don’t really mind, and I haven’t heard of anyone complaining about it.

The guitar is also about a third or half the weight of a cab guitar. If you’re like me and rely on the weight of the guitar to keep it from moving around during gameplay, you have a few options. I put 0.5kg ankle weights on the bottom strap mount and on the neck to make it feel just like cab guitar weight.

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Alternatively, if you are crazy enough, this is also… a solution.

Notice that the start and options buttons are recessed, so they don’t interfere with your gameplay. Konasute also automatically recognizes this controller and integrates very well with it.

I like this. IS WHAT I WANT TO SAY.

Cons

First, initially one of the buttons only registered when I pressed it in a certain way. I replaced it with a switch from a cab guitar. It worked. UNTIL IT DIDN’T!

This stupid, e-waste, plastic landfill garbage controller BROKE. I was playing on it, finished a song, and the controller suddenly disconnected. AND IT NEVER CONNECTED TO MY COMPUTER EVER AGAIN. I think the board inside died. I’m planning to completely replace the internal board with my own wiring.

 

Also, these controllers are rather notorious for having questionable quality. Many top rankers have bought these, and a good number of them have reported button register issues very similar to mine. This can be fixed by removing the springs inside the buttons (didn’t work for me, that’s why I replaced the button outright). It seems that the majority of these issues come from the first production run, so if you buy new you probably won’t have those issues. Probably.

 

Option 3: GITALLER

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Haha, I stole this image from a yahouku listing. This is the highest quality non-official GITADORA controller.

 

Purchase

Very easy, compared to the official guitar and the cab guitar! Just go here. Do note that in the United States, sometimes there will be a restock for the US Storehouse sale. You’ll get to buy the GITALLER for a slightly more expensive price ($311 if I remember correctly) but with FREE SHIPPING! Normally, shipping from GAMO2 to the East Coast for me is 130 bucks, so this is already better than the official guitar and cab guitar, price-wise. Also, because these are quite easy to get, you might be able to buy one secondhand from another GITADORA gamer in your area.

 

Playing experience

Pros

Honestly, great. You will need to install GAMO2’s firmware patch to fix a few issues, but it’s free and takes maybe 10 minutes max. Your computer will recognize the controller right away and it’s just a matter of making Konasute know which inputs are which. Dimensionally, it’s ever so slightly different, but I don’t think it matters. The guitar has metal weights in it so it weighs about as much as a cab guitar. In the following section, I’ll tell you that the frets don’t really feel anything like arcade frets, but most players don’t find it a problem.

Cons

The main drawback of this controller are the frets. The frets use mechanical switches, which you have the option of changing. You’ll be given two fret switch boards, one with Kailh Brown switches and the other with Kailh Yellow switches (clicky). The browns will feel more arcade accurate, but they feel drastically different. I attempted to use Kailh Black switches, which have similar weights to arcade switches, but again, mechanical switches just aren’t arcade switches. 

If you want to put arcade switches in this controller, you need:

 

1. A custom mounting solution, as arcade switches are a lot bigger.

2. Custom wiring, since you can’t use the existing fret switch board with the arcade switches (they don’t fit).

3. The switches, which are not commercially available. I’ve seen them listed on yahouku twice, ever. 

 

As I said before, the switches probably won’t really affect you, but they did affect me because I have a unique fret grip. I was scoring about 20 skill points less than I usually do. However, I haven’t seen anyone else have this kind of problem, so it’s not an issue.

 

Additionally, a decent number of players find the strap that comes with the GITALLER to be kinda bad, where it slips off the controller during play. I used a Guitar Hero controller strap on the GITALLER and it’s been excellent. I gave the GITALLER strap to my Konami official controller, and it has been great there.

 

The start and select buttons on this controller are not recessed like the Konami official controller, and sometimes I press it by accident. I ended up unbinding them. Not really a big problem.

 

Option 4: Guitar Hero

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Well, time to talk about the elephant in the room.

If you are going to play on a GH con, at least try to get the Xplorer since it can detect wails. I mean, it’s not really necessary. These controllers just aren’t for GITADORA. 

 

- The spacing of the fret buttons allows you to hit the first and fifth buttons at the same time, comfortably. You are not supposed to be able to do that in GITADORA.

- The frets use membrane switches, while GITADORA frets are linear.

- The strum is clicky and triggers at different points. GITADORA strums use optical switches and have no feedback other than hitting the stopper. 

- GITADORA strums also use much heavier springs, which require different technique and more force than GH strum springs.

- GITADORA controllers are also a lot heavier than GH controllers. 

 

I’m not saying you can’t use one. It’s just not the full experience.

Option 5:

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Hi, I recently purchased an arcade controller from a Japanese website, how do I connect it to my computer? Is there a way to achieve full functionality (including vibration) without the P4 IO?

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24 minutes ago, popstage said:

Hi, I recently purchased an arcade controller from a Japanese website, how do I connect it to my computer? Is there a way to achieve full functionality (including vibration) without the P4 IO?

You bought something, not even sure how to connect it, not even knowing IF it can be connected at all, why did you buy it ?

So what is "P4" IO ?
"Probably" not Pentium4 Input/Output.

A bit more concise info "could help".

 

 

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  • 1 mois après...

 

 

Recently, I had a problem with my computer, so I installed a new game after formatting it, and it worked normally before, but now the screen looks broken like a picture. Does anyone know a fix for this? 

 

I fixed it.

 

 

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  • 4 semaines après...

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On 4/28/2023 at 6:37 PM, ultrabub563 said:

Everyone! Please Go To This Link! The GITADORA Tri-Boost Re:Evolve, Matixx, Exchain, NEX+AGE, High-Voltage Is Finaly Playable In PC!

GITADORA - RE:Evolve, Matixx , EXCHAIN, NEX+AGE, HIGH-VOLTAGE Konami Bemani :: Nyaa

Thanks!

but my HIGH-VOLTAGE game is cant start.(Freeze?) Does can help?

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Le 01/05/2023 à 06:46, NotEarl a dit :

Got NextAge running thank you ultrabob563. For HV do you have an asphyxia plugin for the game?

When you run nextage, hasn't it happen that prop\avs-config-ja.xml missing problem occurred? In my case, it doesn't run because i don't have that file.

 

I changed the path and it works.

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On 4/30/2023 at 5:36 AM, msdatada said:

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but my HIGH-VOLTAGE game is cant start.(Freeze?) Does can help?

 

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By the way, there is a known issue with AMD Ryzen 3900X processor that makes Gitadora freeze on the loading screen, due to a processor bug. To workaround, try updating firmware, and if that still doesn't work, disable SMT (simultaneous multithreading) in the BIOS.

 

You can also download spice2x and see if you can modify the Processor Affinity and reduce the number of processor the game can use (to half of what is available).

 

 

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On 5/2/2023 at 6:16 AM, bicarus said:

 

 

By the way, there is a known issue with AMD Ryzen 3900X processor that makes Gitadora freeze on the loading screen, due to a processor bug. To workaround, try updating firmware, and if that still doesn't work, disable SMT (simultaneous multithreading) in the BIOS.

 

You can also download spice2x and see if you can modify the Processor Affinity and reduce the number of processor the game can use (to half of what is available).

 

 

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Thanks!

but i can't start the game when I start asphyxia. why?

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On 2/24/2023 at 3:32 AM, Zen_B7 said:

You bought something, not even sure how to connect it, not even knowing IF it can be connected at all, why did you buy it ?

So what is "P4" IO ?
"Probably" not Pentium4 Input/Output.

A bit more concise info "could help".

 

 

dont respondif ur not gonna help, a p4io is a kind of arcade hardware board that handles i/o. it exists in many cabs.

 

On 2/24/2023 at 3:19 AM, popstage said:

Hi, I recently purchased an arcade controller from a Japanese website, how do I connect it to my computer? Is there a way to achieve full functionality (including vibration) without the P4 IO?

full functionality requires you to either:
- rip out the internal board and rewire the entire thing. follow the wiring diagrams here and use a Pro Micro microcontroller. https://github.com/limyz/573controller/wiki/DIY-Guitar

- use the existing wiring harness to connect via USB

      - this option though, will make it difficult for the computer to interface with the controller since it will not show up as an HID device.

 

 

i would NOT use a p4io.

that being said, if you bought an arcade controller without knowledge of microelectronics/soldering, you made a bad decision, so you best start learning how to do soldering.

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  • 3 semaines après...

I have an issue with HV. Both with asphyxia and Monkey Business. I can create a new account for the game and pay a full credit but when I try play a new session it would give me an error on the login screen saying I can't join in the middle of a session then the game resets. Anyone have an idea what's causing the issue?

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  • 2 semaines après...

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