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[Arcade PC] Beatmania IIDX 28 BISTROVER (BEMANI)


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Il y a 23 heures, Funrto a dit :

Try turning on V-Sync in Nvidia control panel or other program.

 

Thanks for the hints,

tried the V-Sync option in nVidia control panel,

set spice64.exe vsync to on.

 

From the observation it got some improvement,

however it cannot solve the problem completely.

 

I tried a bunch of more songs,

apparently, it's not because of the chart running slower than BGM,

it's due to frame-dropping / stuttering.

after V-sync is on, I can clearly see the visible stuttering from time to time, 

and after the stuttering then the chart is lagging behind the BGM.

 

I tried again with the same spicetool config with iidx 29 (2022050900),

work perfectly fine.

 

This behavior is totally in sync to the report of many Taiwan IIDX arcade players reports raging about frame dropping / stuttering specificly on iidx 30.

I think now have to wait for future updates then.

 

Testing on 3080 / 5950x / 64GB, I don't think it's due to under power

will try will some AMD display card later

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il y a 26 minutes, dragoonyuki a dit :

I completed the inheritance of the results, and after repeated settings, I finally solved the problem of out-of-sync sound, and it works perfectly!

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How to inherit files?
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22 hours ago, tembtemb said:

 

Thanks for the hints,

tried the V-Sync option in nVidia control panel,

set spice64.exe vsync to on.

 

From the observation it got some improvement,

however it cannot solve the problem completely.

 

I tried a bunch of more songs,

apparently, it's not because of the chart running slower than BGM,

it's due to frame-dropping / stuttering.

after V-sync is on, I can clearly see the visible stuttering from time to time, 

and after the stuttering then the chart is lagging behind the BGM.

 

I tried again with the same spicetool config with iidx 29 (2022050900),

work perfectly fine.

 

This behavior is totally in sync to the report of many Taiwan IIDX arcade players reports raging about frame dropping / stuttering specificly on iidx 30.

I think now have to wait for future updates then.

 

Testing on 3080 / 5950x / 64GB, I don't think it's due to under power

will try will some AMD display card later

Using this specially modified DLL should solve your problem

bm2dx.dll

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Il y a 1 heure, dragoonyuki a dit :

Using this specially modified DLL should solve your problem

bm2dx.dll 18 Mo · 11 téléchargements

Thank you for the dll,

I have tried this file (and actually I tried those setting as well with dll patching tools)

can't help.

 

Done more testing:

1. under nvidia control panel, enabling the v-sync globally, not specific on spice64.exe, apparently would be more effective (?)

2. close any other background processes as much as possible

and seems this would yield a better result,

but this is totally by luck,

once stuttering would essentially ruin the song,

won't be reliable.


especially for closing background processes, i don't believe the pc is such under powered, and of course more importantly it won't happen on iidx 28 and 29

hopefully konami can release a more stable release soon

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Just thought I would share my experience since some people are having issues. It looks like there might be some minor frame drops in the menus, but after selecting a song, the game runs perfect as far as I can tell. I only played a handful of songs, so not sure if problems would appear in higher difficulties.

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My hardware is 1050ti, 16gb ram, Ryzen5 3600

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1 hour ago, Shining said:

Just thought I would share my experience since some people are having issues. It looks like there might be some minor frame drops in the menus, but after selecting a song, the game runs perfect as far as I can tell. I only played a handful of songs, so not sure if problems would appear in higher difficulties.

unknown.png

 

My hardware is 1050ti, 16gb ram, Ryzen5 3600

My results have been fine as well playing 9's, 10's and a few 11's. At 60hz, which is what I run at, the UI, menu's etc. all run at 30FPS, but when an actual song starts it's 60. I think that's just because the game is designed to run at 120hz so maybe at 120FPS during songs, it would be 60FPS in the UI? Not sure, but it's a minor thing that doesn't affect my actual gameplay or scores. I haven't noticed any frame drops while actually playing songs. Timing can be a bit of an issue from time to time but only for like the first 10 minutes of gameplay. I had this issue with both Bistrover and CastHour as well where I would be hitting slow (by quite a bit) at first, then even itself out. I guess this could just be attributed to not being warmed up though? Like, with CastHour when I would start playing I'd set offset auto adjust to On and my offset would trend downward by quite a bit for a few songs, then back up for a few more and then level out and I could turn auto adjust off. I usually have to make a few minor adjustments but once it levels out everything is just fine.

 

image.png.da6dccc0e796f3c80b55f25cfa31ce85.png

 

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Le 09/11/2022 à 15:12, tembtemb a dit :

 

Same problem, 

1080 120Hz

LDJ-2022103100

spicetools 2022-10-28

screen check jumps between 120.0000 and 119.9999 (which should be normal)

Force Custom Timing and Adapter Mode is on, all set to 120Hz,

Skip Monitor Check FPS set to 120Hz

Skip Monitor Check - tried both on and off

 

works perfectly fine on iidx 28 and 29,

only on iidx 30,

the chart is very tiny little bit slower than the BGM,

so that from the middle of the song,

the chart is completely out of sync and lagging behind the BGM

issue exist on both WASAPI exclusive mode and ASIO mode

can't find solution at the moment

the monitor check is used precisely to caller your game on the HZ of your screen
do not force the monitor check

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Updated The Front Page😉👍

 

i will relax for 10 minutes then i will update some more

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Il y a 3 heures, Lesteph25 a dit :

the monitor check is used precisely to caller your game on the HZ of your screen
do not force the monitor check

If "Force Custom Timing and Adapter Mode in LDJ" is turned off,

no matter what setting in the DLL, and even my monitor support 120Hz

the monitor check result will become 62.5xHz and all timing are wrong

 

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I have LDJ-2021083000(Bistrover) right now and does anyone have update file for this?

no patches work in the version right now 😞

and how do i set 60fps framerate? It runs on 70 fps and the song with lyrics doesn't sync.....

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9 minutes ago, kanseidorifto05 said:

I have LDJ-2021083000(Bistrover) right now and does anyone have update file for this?

no patches work in the version right now 😞

and how do i set 60fps framerate? It runs on 70 fps and the song with lyrics doesn't sync.....

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https://elpis.fun/gamepatcher/bistrover.html

 

 

patch it here 👆

 

and  the update are all here 👇

http://teknoparrot.link.free.fr/multi/Beatmania IIDX 28.html

 

next time start from front page

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4 minutes ago, kanseidorifto05 said:

Do you have asphyxia plugin for iidx 26 or 28 or maybe 30? the plugin i have only works for 27...

 

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http://teknoparrot.link.free.fr/multi/Beatmania IIDX 28.html  did you look here !!!!!

 

you did not read before your post 

and read what other people wrote get an idea 

its for your benefit 👍

i told you first page have every thing 

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20 minutes ago, kanseidorifto05 said:

I already tried that plugin but It was still the same plugin for 27 so it gave me a network error 😞

 

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AsphyxiaCORE

 

did that work out for you!!!!!!

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6 minutes ago, kanseidorifto05 said:

It just shows me this error so i'll just play without card.

thanks for your help

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the card you insert through spicetool 🙄 Asphyxia core is to save

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2 hours ago, kanseidorifto05 said:

Hmm... I just downloaded resident and when i boot the game, it shows me network error in initializing.

I tried spicetools ea emulation and changing ea3-config, but non of them worked:(

Is there anyway to fix this?

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6 minutes ago, piotr25691 said:

Did you know that this forum now has a delete button for posts? You could do that instead of doing an edit to indicate you fixed it

 

Thanks For pointing that to him 

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Hello friends.  I was able to launch iidx 30, but I've encountered a problem.

 

I first faced the error 5-2002-000. This was easily resolved with pressing the test button then configuring the clock and store name.

 

However, when trying to start the game after, I am getting this message about a e-amusement pass(as pictured).

This issue is the same whether I enable or disable the e-amusement emulation.

 

I am launching this game clean without Asphyxia yet.

 

How do i go past this error page? Thank you.

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44 minutes ago, ArcVile said:

Hello friends.  I was able to launch iidx 30, but I've encountered a problem.

 

I first faced the error 5-2002-000. This was easily resolved with pressing the test button then configuring the clock and store name.

 

However, when trying to start the game after, I am getting this message about a e-amusement pass(as pictured).

This issue is the same whether I enable or disable the e-amusement emulation.

 

I am launching this game clean without Asphyxia yet.

 

How do i go past this error page? Thank you.

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run Asphyxia because that what it needs 

because its a network problem 

<network>
  <timeout __type="u32">30000</timeout>
<sz_xrpc_buf __type="u32">102400</sz_xrpc_buf>
<ssl __type="bool">1</ssl>
<services __type="str">localhost/</services>&nb…;

 

and don't use that line 👆

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That screenshot you posted you can press the test button to get pass that error. For your network error, replace in the ea3-config file:

 

<services_localstrap __type="str">http://eamuse.konami.fun/service/services/services/</services_localstrap>

 

with

 

<services_localstrap __type="str">http://localhost:8083</services_localstrap>

 

(you had it changed in 1 of the 2 places that needed it).

 

Try booting again and let me know.

 

Edit: The ea3-config file you posted I believe is from the prop/default folder. you want to change the one just in the prop folder and not the one you posted.

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56 minutes ago, Kenamian said:

That screenshot you posted you can press the test button to get pass that error. For your network error, replace in the ea3-config file:

 

<services_localstrap __type="str">http://eamuse.konami.fun/service/services/services/</services_localstrap>

 

with

 

<services_localstrap __type="str">http://localhost:8083</services_localstrap>

 

(you had it changed in 1 of the 2 places that needed it).

 

Try booting again and let me know.

 

Edit: The ea3-config file you posted I believe is from the prop/default folder. you want to change the one just in the prop folder and not the one you posted.

thanks for answering him this is 1 right answer 

 

he can use several ways to pass that issue 

and i know 2 ways or 3

and these ways are in front page 

reading is knowledge

 

just to correct 1 thing  there are 3 ea3-config.xml

it true that 1 ea3-config.xml is in prop/default

1 in prop

1 in dev/nvram

 

and it copies from prop to dev/nvram 

 

you need 1 tiny line to do all that for you in the .bat file 

 

-url http://localhost:8083

 

easy stuff 

do not configure spicecfg.exe  use a line to do that for you it is written in front of you 

image.png.de0b94f702b1375c523c3666fdee4601.png

 

put -(the parameter) (the value) and be careful of the spaces 

 

reading is knowledge🤓

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48 minutes ago, Kenamian said:

That screenshot you posted you can press the test button to get pass that error. For your network error, replace in the ea3-config file:

 

<services_localstrap __type="str">http://eamuse.konami.fun/service/services/services/</services_localstrap>

 

with

 

<services_localstrap __type="str">http://localhost:8083</services_localstrap>

 

(you had it changed in 1 of the 2 places that needed it).

 

Try booting again and let me know.

 

Edit: The ea3-config file you posted I believe is from the prop/default folder. you want to change the one just in the prop folder and not the one you posted.

Turns out I was editing ea3 in NVRAM instead of prop like an idiot. Thanks for pointing this out, game works like a charm now. 

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Le 11/11/2022 à 19:57, ganybunz a dit :

My results have been fine as well playing 9's, 10's and a few 11's. At 60hz, which is what I run at, the UI, menu's etc. all run at 30FPS, but when an actual song starts it's 60. I think that's just because the game is designed to run at 120hz so maybe at 120FPS during songs, it would be 60FPS in the UI? Not sure, but it's a minor thing that doesn't affect my actual gameplay or scores. I haven't noticed any frame drops while actually playing songs. Timing can be a bit of an issue from time to time but only for like the first 10 minutes of gameplay. I had this issue with both Bistrover and CastHour as well where I would be hitting slow (by quite a bit) at first, then even itself out. I guess this could just be attributed to not being warmed up though? Like, with CastHour when I would start playing I'd set offset auto adjust to On and my offset would trend downward by quite a bit for a few songs, then back up for a few more and then level out and I could turn auto adjust off. I usually have to make a few minor adjustments but once it levels out everything is just fine.

 

image.png.da6dccc0e796f3c80b55f25cfa31ce85.png

 

be sur this is not activate in lancher.exe (spice.exe?)

 

image.png.a40e96129af672fdba0007ed2225397c.png

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45 minutes ago, Lesteph25 said:

be sur this is not activate in lancher.exe (spice.exe?)

 

image.png.a40e96129af672fdba0007ed2225397c.png

 

 

i like when Pro's lecture and pointing to tiny details 

 

little things matter the most 

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Il y a 13 heures, Omar2 a dit :

 

 

i like when Pro's lecture and pointing to tiny details 

 

little things matter the most 

😄

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On 11/12/2022 at 3:10 PM, Omar2 said:

run Asphyxia because that what it needs 

because its a network problem 

<network>
  <timeout __type="u32">30000</timeout>
<sz_xrpc_buf __type="u32">102400</sz_xrpc_buf>
<ssl __type="bool">1</ssl>
<services __type="str">localhost/</services>&nb…;

 

and don't use that line 👆

Thank you for the support, but I am still having that e-amusement pass error page.

 

Just so you and I be on the same page, this is what I have done so far:

 

1)opened ea3-config.xml files(for both in prop and nvram folder), changed them to <services_localstrap __type="str">http://localhost:8083</services_localstrap>

2)added the Asphyxia files you've posted on Page 27(your post from response to @kanseidorifto05) - during this process, some of the files were replaced.

3)generated card from spice.config.

4)started asphyxia-core-x64 - it first asked me to type [YES] to upgrade, and it worked smoothly.

5)start game, pressed test button to skip 5-2002-000, then to [game mode], then I am still stuck in that same e-amusement error page.

 

Was there something that I have missed that cause this issue to continue?

 

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My Asphyxia cannot record the scores of 2 difficulties of the same song. For example,  it can only record either HYPER or ANOTHER.

This problem was happening on CH and RDT. How can I solve this problem?

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Hello, I found that some people said their RDT have some lyrics unsync problems.
Same problems here, but not about the chart lag issue.


My problem is about vocal line in bgm always getting a little slower than the instrumental bgm when I playing vocal songs, such as 華爛漫(Hana ranman), 朧(Oboro), chrono diver -fragment-, etc.

And then I noticed that some songs without vocal also have same unsync problem in drum beats and synth, such as 灼熱Beach Side Bunny and 卑弥呼(Himiko).
I try to press start button and just listen up bgm without key sounds, it still reproduced every time.

Log doesn't show any related error message on it.
I tried to read past discussions but I can't find any solution about this case.

How can I solve this problem?

Sorry for my bad English.

Thank you.

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16 hours ago, ArcVile said:

Thank you for the support, but I am still having that e-amusement pass error page.

 

Just so you and I be on the same page, this is what I have done so far:

 

1)opened ea3-config.xml files(for both in prop and nvram folder), changed them to <services_localstrap __type="str">http://localhost:8083</services_localstrap>

2)added the Asphyxia files you've posted on Page 27(your post from response to @kanseidorifto05) - during this process, some of the files were replaced.

3)generated card from spice.config.

4)started asphyxia-core-x64 - it first asked me to type [YES] to upgrade, and it worked smoothly.

5)start game, pressed test button to skip 5-2002-000, then to [game mode], then I am still stuck in that same e-amusement error page.

 

Was there something that I have missed that cause this issue to continue?

 

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I think I can probably help you however for some reason your images are not showing up full size for me so I'm not able to actually see any of the information in them. Could you put the original screenshots in a zip file and upload them or DM them to me? I do have an idea of what might be happening but I'd like to actually check the images first as well.

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17 hours ago, ArcVile said:

Thank you for the support, but I am still having that e-amusement pass error page.

 

Just so you and I be on the same page, this is what I have done so far:

 

1)opened ea3-config.xml files(for both in prop and nvram folder), changed them to <services_localstrap __type="str">http://localhost:8083</services_localstrap>

2)added the Asphyxia files you've posted on Page 27(your post from response to @kanseidorifto05) - during this process, some of the files were replaced.

3)generated card from spice.config.

4)started asphyxia-core-x64 - it first asked me to type [YES] to upgrade, and it worked smoothly.

5)start game, pressed test button to skip 5-2002-000, then to [game mode], then I am still stuck in that same e-amusement error page.

 

Was there something that I have missed that cause this issue to continue?

 

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this is a network issue

 

  1. make sure you have good internet connection
  2. try to uncheck read only of the game folder
  3. try to change the game shop setting in test menu
  4. or try this 

 

https://uptobox.com/xrwb0hq4bfsb

https://uptobox.com/m2gkw9bxi8y3

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@ganybunz @Omar2

I'm re-up-loading the captures taken as a zip file, since they are too small to visualize.

 

Also, in regards to @Omar2's response:

1)my internet connection is good.

2)I've unchecked the read-only of the game files - when I open the property again, the files still have it checked though.  Unchecked, Applied and ok'd, but still have the read-only checked.

3)in the game shop setting(pics below), I can only change the store name.  The e-amusement is ON, and I cant change to OFF(or other option).  I've posted the Network check pics for reference.

4)uptobox links I cannot use because of living in US. I apologize.

 

I have iidx 28 and 29 as well, which both work fine without issue(whether thru Asphyxia or have -ea emulation).  This error page only shows up for iidx30.

 

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