[SINGE 2] New LD Engine + Games (3.32 update + DLIIe surprise)

[shift]

  Le 30/11/2020 à 14:43, Karis a dit :

Ok, Sucker Punch is up! I wish you good luck, don't hesitate to use Percent mode to master it.

 

One more (little) surprise coming next week and then some holidays

Développer  

The words "playable trailer" remained, I think it needs to be removed. Thanks for the wonderful work!

[mocio]

  Le 30/11/2020 à 21:14, Karis a dit :

Not sure and the result will be poor. Don't do this.

Have you tried the normal version but with the overlay set to Lo Res ? It's really better for weaker CPUs (and it's true that Singe 2 is not totally optimized, if there are some experts around here Scott would be happy). 

Otherwise i still could create a 480p in 16/9 (or even 1024×576). It would be better than a stretched one.

Développer  

Thanks you.  I’ve tried whit low res overlay, but audio and video remains choppy...

No problem, I love it anyway.

Except for mononoke, for all other games I still use singe which handles them well. I will try on linux. Has anyone tried how it runs on raspberry? Cheers

[Karis]

  Le 30/11/2020 à 22:51, mocio a dit :

Thanks you.  I’ve tried whit low res overlay, but audio and video remains choppy...

No problem, I love it anyway.

Except for mononoke, for all other games I still use singe which handles them well. I will try on linux. Has anyone tried how it runs on raspberry? Cheers

Développer  

 

Choppy audio could be caused by your audio driver. And if there is choppy audio, then the video has to be choppy cause it syncs on audio.

It's apparently usual with Realtek audio cards. Some people replace it by an audio generic driver.

 

Actually for my arcade (which has a Realtek audio) it was not stuttering, but sometimes lagging a bit. Since i updated my audio driver i don't have problems anymore.

 

[Karis]

  Le 30/11/2020 à 22:13, shift a dit :

The words "playable trailer" remained, I think it needs to be removed. Thanks for the wonderful work!

Développer  

Ah yes, thank you!

[Karis]

So guys, tonight is a good night

I had a (minor) behavior bug since a long time, really rare so difficult to track.

 

I think i got it this time. As a consequence i changed the main.singe to version 2.13 in all games except Cliff and DL2 (which are not concerned)

 

If you want this new file without redownloading, here it is (it goes in the script directory of each game)

Careful: NOT for Cliff and DL2!!!

 

https://mega.nz/file/pORCzbLY#zR716Egju1Ts-_YLk1Ic8Svb_XVnTVc7RLZJAwb46YI

 

[shift]

  Le 01/12/2020 à 01:11, Karis a dit :

So guys, tonight is a good night

I had a (minor) behavior bug since a long time, really rare so difficult to track.

 

I think i got it this time. As a consequence i changed the main.singe to version 2.13 in all games except Cliff and DL2 (which are not concerned)

 

If you want this new file without redownloading, here it is (it goes in the script directory of each game)

Careful: NOT for Cliff and DL2!!!

 

https://mega.nz/file/pORCzbLY#zR716Egju1Ts-_YLk1Ic8Svb_XVnTVc7RLZJAwb46YI

 

Développer  

Does the SuckerPunch (complete version) main.singe also need to be changed or is that already correct? Thanks.

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[Karis]

  Le 01/12/2020 à 14:52, shift a dit :

Does the SuckerPunch (complete version) main.singe also need to be changed or is that already correct? Thanks.

Développer  

 

All the games are now corrected so if you just dowloaded it (i mean after i posted this message), you don't need to correct. 

A goo way to check is the version number on top of the main.singe. 2.13 is te good one.

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[phasermaniac]

Alg games need the new main.singe too? I ask because they are way different to the rest.

[Karis]

  Le 01/12/2020 à 20:32, phasermaniac a dit :

Alg games need the new main.singe too? I ask because they are way different to the rest.

Développer  

No no.

Just for my games except Cliff and DL2 (which i will convert at some point).

[mazinger4life]

Karis is 3 intro is the max ? or we can add more intro in a original  game.Also I Like the update to the Singe Engine like the Frame Relative option very good .

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[poiu]

soon

[mazinger4life]

Poiu this is great ,almost all daphne games will get a Singe 2 facelift and extra,keep it up the good work it help preserved those classic laserdisc games in the gaming community.

[Karis]

  Le 01/12/2020 à 22:19, mazinger4life a dit :

Karis is 3 intro is the max ? or we can add more intro in a original  game.Also I Like the update to the Singe Engine like the Frame Relative option very good .

Développer  

 

Actually i did the frame relative almost for you

Yes the limit is 3+Title. Not so simple to add, so try to stick with 3, anyway it's just attract movies, 3 should be ok (they're turning with rankings, controls, special controls, trophies, etc...quite long)

 

[Karis]

Hello,

 

Please not that Cliff and DL2e now accept Percent mode.

Also Cliff is converted to the last version of the program (DL2e won't because it has too many differences, but you don't care it works)

 

Next meeting on Friday, with a FINAL update for all game (it will be a tiny download) AND a last surprise before i take extensive vacations(i will still answer questions of course, but i'll do music instead of games for a while)! 

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[Tremolux]

  Le 02/12/2020 à 11:28, Karis a dit :

Next meeting on Friday, with a FINAL update for all game (it will be a tiny download) AND a last surprise before i take extensive vacations(i will still answer questions of course, but i'll do music instead of games for a while)! 

Développer  

 

What instrument do you play ?

[Karis]

  Le 02/12/2020 à 13:18, Tremolux a dit :

 

What instrument do you play ?

Développer  

Guitar (we play mainly old 70s rock stuff) 

[Tremolux]

  Le 02/12/2020 à 14:11, Karis a dit :

Guitar (we play mainly old 70s rock stuff) 

Développer  

 

Awesome ! I too play guitar in a blues/rock band but can't rehearse atm because of covid-19 :-(

[Karis]

  Le 02/12/2020 à 14:23, Tremolux a dit :

 

Awesome ! I too play guitar in a blues/rock band but can't rehearse atm because of covid-19 :-(

Développer  

Me neither. But we record and send on Youtube.

That's not like playing for real but at least we're doing something. Takes some time though and i can't do this and real job and FMV games at the same time.

[snupello]

  Le 25/10/2020 à 21:51, Karis a dit :

 

 

UPDATES:

- 02/12/20: Cliff and DL2 now have percent mode.

Développer  

 

What is this percent mode ? 

I can download all file or specific file ??

Tks

[Tremolux]

  Le 02/12/2020 à 15:25, Karis a dit :

Me neither. But we record and send on Youtube.

That's not like playing for real but at least we're doing something. Takes some time though and i can't do this and real job and FMV games at the same time.

Développer  

 

That's really cool ! Yes, so sad a day only lasts 24h

[larazaa75]

Hi, but how can you play games with the PAD? I'll explain better I can choose the game and play it with the PAD but then inside the game the moves are taken only by the keyboard there is a way to play only with the PAD thank you very much

[Karis]

It depends on the pad but normally x360 is natively supported.

[Tremolux]

  Le 02/12/2020 à 19:06, larazaa75 a dit :

Hi, but how can you play games with the PAD? I'll explain better I can choose the game and play it with the PAD but then inside the game the moves are taken only by the keyboard there is a way to play only with the PAD thank you very much

Développer  

 

You need to edit controls.cfg in each game. Try to replace gamepad_0 by gamepad_1

[Karis]

  Le 02/12/2020 à 15:53, snupello a dit :

 

What is this percent mode ? 

I can download all file or specific file ??

Tks

Développer  

Percent mode is a new gaming mode.

In this mode you play a whole level (and just one). You cannot die even if you make mistakes. At the end there is an evaluation (percentage) and if it's good enough you enter a high score.

It's available for all games now. You just need the script files, but, as i converted Cliff for this, you'd better download everything apart the video for this one. 

[Tremolux]

  Le 02/12/2020 à 20:00, Karis a dit :

Percent mode is a new gaming mode.

In this mode you play a whole level (and just one). You cannot die even if you make mistakes. At the end there is an evaluation (percentage) and if it's good enough you enter a high score.

It's available for all games now. You just need the script files, but, as i converted Cliff for this, you'd better download everything apart the video for this one. 

Développer  

 

Sounds cool, definitely need to try this !

[Karis]

  Le 02/12/2020 à 20:20, Tremolux a dit :

 

Sounds cool, definitely need to try this !

Développer  

 

Yeah. First it's a really cool way to discover a level.

And a really good trainer too for the most difficult games.

Because normally you learn move by move but here you've got an overview.

It's challenging too because you won't like missing a move, i swear.

I had the idea because of Sucker Punch, which is Hell on Earth

 

To sum up i think it's a really new and interesting way to play FMV. My testers really like it they're doing contest actually

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[larazaa75]

 

Thanks a lot it was to change from 0 to 1, but the games like space ace and dragon salyer 1 are there for singe ??

[Karis]

  Le 02/12/2020 à 20:23, larazaa75 a dit :

 

Thanks a lot it was to change from 0 to 1, but the games like space ace and dragon salyer 1 are there for singe ??

Développer  

Not yet.

[Tremolux]

  Le 02/12/2020 à 20:23, Karis a dit :

 

Yeah. First it's a really cool way to discover a level.

And a really good trainer too for the most difficult games.

Because normally you learn move by move but here you've got an overview.

It's challenging too because you won't like missing a move, i swear.

I had the idea because of Sucker Punch, which is Hell on Earth

 

To sum up i think it's a really new and interesting way to play FMV. My testers really like it they're doing contest actually

Développer  

 

Awesome ! Did not try Sucker Punch yet and it makes me laugh when I hear you say it's hell on earth because to me Cliff and DL2 are really tough...but I'm still a rookie in FMV land :D

[Karis]

  Le 02/12/2020 à 20:38, Tremolux a dit :

 

Awesome ! Did not try Sucker Punch yet and it makes me laugh when I hear you say it's hell on earth because to me Cliff and DL2 are really tough...but I'm still a rookie in FMV land :D

Développer  

 

That's normal. They are both really difficult games.

 

DL2 is easily the most difficult of the trilogy (original rom, there are no scenes, you have to redo the level which is generally 35 moves long).

Cliff has a lot of short inputs (ninja level for example). Many are shorter than those of SP.

 

But both Mononoke and SP are long, with more possible moves (Hold, Shoot). 

 

at least, you can now play any level/scene for all those games (and that was not possible on the original arcade of course). If i recall it well on DL2 i arrived to the Egyptian level with not too many quarters, but never saw the end at this time   

[Tremolux]

  Le 02/12/2020 à 20:45, Karis a dit :

 

That's normal. They are both really difficult games.

 

DL2 is easily the most difficult of the trilogy (original rom, there are no scenes, you have to redo the level which is generally 35 moves long).

Cliff has a lot of short inputs (ninja level for example). Many are shorter than those of SP.

 

But both Mononoke and SP are long, with more possible moves (Hold, Shoot). 

 

at least, you can now play any level/scene for all those games (and that was not possible on the original arcade of course). If i recall it well on DL2 i arrived to the Egyptian level with not too many quarters, but never saw the end at this time   

Développer  

 

Ah ah !! Never played the actual arcade machine, only bad conversion on computers like the Atari 1040ste. I say bad because I never figured out how to pass the first scene of the first Dragon's Lair game lol

 

But now thanks to your work, it's possible and in a better way than ever so thank you, mate ! :-)

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[Karis]

  Le 02/12/2020 à 20:52, Tremolux a dit :

 

Ah ah !! Never played the actual arcade machine, only bad conversion on computers like the Atari 1040ste. I say bad because I never figured out how to pass the first scene of the first Dragon's Lair game lol

 

But now thanks to your work, it's possible and in a better way than ever so thank you, mate ! :-)

Développer  

C'est un plaisir

[uVSthem]

  Le 01/12/2020 à 00:43, Karis a dit :

 

Choppy audio could be caused by your audio driver. And if there is choppy audio, then the video has to be choppy cause it syncs on audio.

It's apparently usual with Realtek audio cards. Some people replace it by an audio generic driver.

 

Actually for my arcade (which has a Realtek audio) it was not stuttering, but sometimes lagging a bit. Since i updated my audio driver i don't have problems anymore.

 

Développer  

I'm having an audio and video problem. It seems like all the video and audio is running in fast forward. I am not using Realtek audio. I have video and audio coming out of the HDMI on my Geforce  GTX 1080 TI card.

[Invité maxbartop]

Btw guys, if you don't want to modify every "controls.cfg" for every game, just delete them in each folder and just keep one in the singe2 directory, modify it as you want and it'll work with every games then ;-)

And again, great work Karis!

[Karis]

  Le 02/12/2020 à 21:49, maxbartop a dit :

Btw guys, if you don't want to modify every "controls.cfg" for every game, just delete them in each folder and just keep one in the singe2 directory, modify it as you want and it'll work with every games then ;-)

And again, great work Karis!

Développer  

You are right. And thank you

[mazinger4life]

  Le 02/12/2020 à 15:25, Karis a dit :

Anyone heard of this obscure fmv point and click game

Développer  

 

[Karis]

  Le 02/12/2020 à 22:30, mazinger4life a dit :

 

Développer  

Never heard of.

But most MSX games are really easily emulated. Including Laserdisk. I think there's even a Esh version.